Probleme mit Geogebra und Smart Notebook | Problems with Geogebra and Smart Notebook

*** Update 31.12.2014 ***

At the end of this post you’ll find a comment from the Geogebra-developer team about these issues! Thank you Geogebra-team for the fast answer and the reaction to this blogpost!

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Problem 1: Geogebra-Widget kann nicht eingefügt werden (während AVG Antivirus läuft)

Immer wenn ich versucht habe das Geogebra-Widget in meine Notebook-Seite einzufügen erschien nur das Logo – und es passierte nichts.

Auf einem anderen Rechner funktionierte dies jedoch tadellos!

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Geogebra don’t start while AVG Antivirus is running!

Nach längerer (verzweifelter!) Suche konnte ich die Ursache lokalisieren: Der Antiviren-Schutz von AVG verursacht das Problem. Sobald dieser deaktiviert wird funktioniert alles reibungslos!

Die technischen Hintergründe kenne ich nicht genau (Java?) aber ich werde mir einen anderem Antiviren-Schutz zulegen müssen.

Problem 1: Geogebra-Widget doesn’t start (while AVG Antivirus is running)

Every time I tried to insert the Geogebra-Widget into a Smart Notebook page, only the logo appeared – but nothing else happened.

On another PC it just worked fine!

After a long (and fruitless!) search I was able to locate the reason: the AVG antivirus protection caused the trouble! If the protection is disabled everything works fine!

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After disabling AVG Antivirus everything works fine!

I’m not sure about the technical reasons (Java?) but for me the only solution seems to be to look for another antivirus protection.

Problem 2: Geogebra-Dateien lassen sich in Smart Notebook nicht abspeichern!

Über das besagte Geogebra-Widget lassen sich zwar gespeicherte und vorbereitete Dateien öffnen – jedoch fehlt in dem Menü eine Möglichkeit bearbeitete Dateien auch abzuspeichern!

Es existiert lediglich die Option seine Datei auf GeogebraTube hochzuladen – was ich aber ganz sicher nicht mit jeder Datei die ich im Unterricht nutze/bearbeite tun möchte.

Eine Lösung sehe ich nicht, jedoch verliert das Addon aus meiner Sicht dadurch erheblich an Nutzen.

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New – Open – Sharing – but no option to save a file! Neu – Öffnen – Teilen – aber keine Möglichkeit eine Datei zu speichern!

Problem 2: It’s not possible to save Geogebra-files within Smart Notebook

With the Add-on it’s possible to open saved/prepared Geogebra-files within Smart Notebook – but there is no option to save them!

You are only given the option of uploading your files to GeogebraTube – something that I definitely don’t want to do with every single file I’m working with.

I see no solution for this at the moment, and for this reason, the Add-on is a lot less useful than it could be.

Fazit

Smart wählt einen guten Ansatz indem bewährte, fachspezifische Programme als Add-on eingebunden werden. Dies macht die Software, die inzwischen kostenpflichtig geworden ist (Link), zumindest wieder attraktiver. Leider gibt es insbesondere bei Geogebra noch etwas Nachbesserungsbedarf – man darf gespannt sein,wie sich das weiterentwickelt!

Conclusion

Smart is choosing the right way to embed successful, subject-specific software as Add-ons. This makes the software more interesting again, especially as it is no longer for free (Link – in German only). Unfortunately there is still some work to do regarding Geogebra –  I’m curious how this will develop! 

 

*** Answer from Geogebra – Team ***

Dear David,

as a member of the GeoGebra developer team I would like to add a few comments.

ad 1) we ran into this issue last year and there is not much either SMART or GeoGebra can do about this. Parts of SMART Notebook like widgets and addons are communicating with each other via websockets, this communication is killed by AVG. To avoid this you need to switch off the browsing protection feature of AVG.

ad 2) If you save the whole notebook file, the state of GeoGebra construction is saved as part of it. Option to save content of GeoGebra widget as .ggb was intentionally removed from SMART Notebook addon as we believed it would be confusing to have two independent save functions.

Your feedback is very welcome, in case you run into any more problems in the future feel free to let us know at support@geogebra.org.

Best regards,
Zbynek

PS: we are just working on a new version of the addon for the December release of SMART Notebook. It is based on the current version of our web app:http://web.geogebra.org/app , I hope you will like it.

 

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  1. Dear David,

    as a member of the GeoGebra developer team I would like to add a few comments.

    ad 1) we ran into this issue last year and there is not much either SMART or GeoGebra can do about this. Parts of SMART Notebook like widgets and addons are communicating with each other via websockets, this communication is killed by AVG. To avoid this you need to switch off the browsing protection feature of AVG.

    ad 2) If you save the whole notebook file, the state of GeoGebra construction is saved as part of it. Option to save content of GeoGebra widget as .ggb was intentionally removed from SMART Notebook addon as we believed it would be confusing to have two independent save functions.

    Your feedback is very welcome, in case you run into any more problems in the future feel free to let us know at support@geogebra.org.

    Best regards,
    Zbynek

    PS: we are just working on a new version of the addon for the December release of SMART Notebook. It is based on the current version of our web app: http://web.geogebra.org/app , I hope you will like it.

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